• The other ‘girl next door’

    As I entered the newspaper publisher’s office, he beckoned me into his private office, asking me, “Do you remember Mary Martinez?”

    “Oh, gawd, what now?” I inquired, shaking my head.

    My memory banks flashed back a couple of years, when he had assigned me a story regarding a woman named Mary Martinez who had lost a son in Afghanistan, and the organization she subsequently created, “Gold Country for the Troops,” to support friends and families of veterans. The publisher was pondering an idea of highlighting a veteran each month after the article was published as a community outreach.

    After scheduling a date and time with Martinez, I was met at the side gate of her home by her husband, Daniel.  She preferred the interview take place in their backyard. Although I presumed it due to the pleasant temperatures, something didn’t feel right. However, I politely followed them to a pond, as I glanced around the yard which, if it had been kept up, could’ve been a lovely area.

    Martinez reminded me of the stereotypical southern belle, a Scarlett O’Hara type, who — even when the world is burning, collapsing — she is perfectly dressed, perfectly made-up, and not a hair out of place. In other words, although she grieved for her son, “the show must go on.”

    Her quiet husband, on the other hand, was dressed in hanging-out-at-home attire, as if his presence was an after-thought. She seemed annoyed whenever I asked him a question.

    The entire interview felt “off.”  Something wasn’t quite right, such as her violent facial reaction to her husband’s innocent, standard response to one of my questions.  The intensely deep shade of red clashed with her outfit.

    She rarely made eye contact with me.

    She mentioned at one point that her father had been in the military, so when I suggested a photo of her holding a military portrait of her son, with a military photo of her father in the background, she agreed.

    We entered through the back door into a “junk room,” where walking space was seriously limited.  An altar had been created to her son on a shelf beneath a window; a mound of items – including stuffed animals – lay at the base of her son’s photograph.  She looked through a couple of boxes, and announced she couldn’t find the photo of her father.  Could she email it to me?  I told her that was fine.

    As she walked me back outside — not through the house, but back to the backyard — around the house, returning to the side gate, she emphasized the urgency of the article because there were events that were coming up.

    A week passed with no email, so I called to remind her.  Oh, I’ve been so busy, she told me, but I will definitely get that to you.  A second week goes by and no email, so I send her a reminder email.  Still nothing received.

    After the third week, I sent her an email advising that if I didn’t receive the photo by Friday, the article would not be punished.

    She went ballistic, shooting me a long, scathing reply, proclaiming her disgust at my insensitivity, blah, blah, and she refused to let me anywhere near the article.  I decided to just walk away.

    The publisher pulled me back to the present moment, as he gestured to an email on his computer monitor.

    It has been discovered that Mary Martinez’s true identity is that of the infamous Charlene Gallego – half of the infamous “Sex Slave Serial Murderers,” whose killing spree spread from 1978 to 1980.

    Because of my weird experience with that interview, he asked me to write an article, but to stick with the facts only, which I did.  He chickened out, in my opinion, by not giving it the full headline story.  Instead, there’s the teaser up in the right-hand corner:

    http://carmichaeltimes.com/pdf_files/volume_33_pdfs/Times%2002-06-13.pdf

    What couldn’t be mentioned in the article is that she is under investigation for an unrelated issue, nor could I mention who is performing the investigation. It will come out later.

    A television station interviewed her, but kept her “true identity” concealed, which I found amusing.  Small communities have a great communication line.  There aren’t too many residents in her neighborhood that are unaware of who lives next door to them. There is a website where her actual street address has been posted.

    One resident advised the publisher – but didn’t want it printed yet due to the possibility of a lawsuit – that Martinez/Gallego had not only been a Thanksgiving guest of hers last year, but actually sat across the table from the parents of one of her victims.

    Martinez/Gallego’s audacity at moving back to the area where most of the killings took place pales to her ongoing audacity of hosting fundraising events, and leading a veterans’ event, including posing for photographs. She doesn’t care.

    The girl next door ain’t what she used to be.



    • HOLY CRAP. Charlene Gallego and her psychopathic husband killed one of my dear friends from high school, Craig Miller. May both the Gallegos rot in hell. How DARE she return to the area and conceal her identity.



    • This is riveting and I want to know what happens. Is she in prison now? I have to go to google on this one.



    • In exchange for testifying against her husband, she received a lighter sentence and served her time out of state – Nevada – where two of the killings took place.


      • Maya North

      • February 23, 2013 at 2:20 am
      • Reply

      This makes my blood run cold… 🙁


      • Carolyn Wyler

      • February 24, 2013 at 9:32 am
      • Reply

      That’s so scary. I can’t believe she’s out of jail. That is so wrong.



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      • Melissa Craft

      • April 18, 2013 at 1:42 am
      • Reply

      Isn’t it ironic that Charlene Aka Mary martinez son Charlie Williams dies. At least he wasn’t tortured and murdered like her and Geralds victims. Karma is a bitch.


      • David

      • May 20, 2013 at 3:19 pm
      • Reply

      Mary Martinez needs to remember there is no statute of limitations on murder. Fact: She has returned to the scene of their crimes. Fact: has reportedly said there were MORE murders/bodies. Fact: lives next to Fair Oaks Park,not to far from the American River. From an investigator’s POV, she seems to want to bait the public, almost as if she is saying “ha ha I got away with it ALL and there is nothing you can do to me”. Fact: she fabricated 2 marriages and at least 2 legal IRS designations. Misrepresenting to get donations? Con artistry is how she lured the poor kids to their torture and death…. hence is a Karla Hmolka type of figure instead of “victim” as she claims. She needs further and constant investigation. I would not visit that Park she lives next to and if I were you, I’d keep my kids far away from there. I don’t wonder the property values next to her easily discovered address, would start to dive.


      • cepri

      • September 4, 2013 at 10:22 pm
      • Reply

      My fathers car broke down one night on I5 when he was 18 he is now in his 50’s. The gallegos picked him up to make a long story short. My father asked for a ride to a nearby gas station. She was sitting in the passenger seat and he was driving my father said he never said a word or moved never turned his head or even twitched. My father became suspicious when she said we are going to have fun with you tonight and she was laughing my fathers aid she had the look of evil in her eyes. She was taking the whole time and laughing. While he just drove never making a sound. My father had a screwdriver in his pocket and remembers reaching slowly girit and saying stop here. She said no keep going my dad said stop now she again said keep driving. My dad said stop the car. She said in an upset voice ok stop the car and my dad got out. Later when they git arrested he saw the picture and thought to himself he is positive that was her. He never saw the guys face but he will never forget her face she sat with her knees on the seat turned toward him the whole time talking and laughing. My father never said anything about this for years. He brought it up family years later. My father said from that ride it looked like she controlled him and told him what to do. I told my dad she was released after only 17 years he said that’s ridiculous she knew what she was doing at least that night she was in total control. My father said he was lucky that night she had plans but some reason he was let out.


      • Aly

      • October 6, 2013 at 8:18 pm
      • Reply

      Some of my friends were horrified to find out they were their neighbors recently because a cop went knocking around the neighborhood asking about any suspicious behavior due to a new tent in the backyard. I think the neighborhood should be blanketed in fliers, they’re running a non profit called Gold Country for the Troops that nobody can verify the EIN of.



      • Dear Aly,
        Thank you for your post. The address you posted was edited out because posting the address of a private party may be a violation of their privacy. You are welcome to contact Julie privately with that information.


      • Dale Saunders

      • October 8, 2013 at 10:21 pm
      • Reply

      I have read the many ridiculous statements and fabrications many of use to justify your blatant disregard for ignoring and even violating other peoples constitutional and civil rights! I don’t know if Aly or the webmaster of this site are aware of this, but listing someones address and contact information the way it has been done here is not only a violation of state, but also federal law! I have copied it and will be forwarding it all the appropriate state and federal agencies. You people disgust me! I believe this country has more to fear from people like you, who willfully ignore other peoples constitutional and civil rights because you feel the justice system failed! HOW ABOUT DOING WHAT ANY REAL AMERICAN WOULD DO! TRY TO CHANGE OR FIX THE JUSTICE SYSTEM THAT ALLOWED THIS WOMAN TO BE PAROLED! I did not fight and shed blood for this country so assholes like you could rewrite its laws and contitutional rights at will! Nor did my Brothers jn arms who gave their lives in defense of the freedoms we all enjoy! SHAME ON YOU ALL! I HOPE THEY LOCK YOU ALL UP WITH THE SAME KIND OF PEOPLE YOU WILLFULLY VIOLATED THE RIGHTS OF!



      • Thank you for your concern about privacy issues. Although this falls in a gray area, in my opinion, because anyone’s address can easily be found online through various websites and search engines, I have edited the address out of Aly’s post.


        • Anna

        • August 26, 2017 at 9:43 am
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        This woman, and others like her including men ,have no right to privacy she should have been buried under the prison,not released from it. and anyone who would disagree with protecting the public scares the hell out of me, because like these two you would have to be sick and demented,to think anyone like this is deserving of privacy..


        • JoyeYagoda

        • July 2, 2018 at 7:39 am
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        To bad bitch! Sue them and see how far a bitch like u gets! Don’t worry about murders, just worry about yourself! You crazy bitch!


        • Joyce Yagoda

        • July 2, 2018 at 7:44 am
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        Oh yes and thanks for your service! This country that u fought for will reward u with a great education and anything else u desire, not that you are a vet. I come from a long line of military men, army, navy, paratroopers!


        • Sam Sanders

        • July 24, 2018 at 2:54 am
        • Reply

        Cry me a river you self righteous dumb simpleton. And no one cares about your service ok so stop bringing it up as if we owe you something. You were a pawn for those in power and your brothers sadly died for nothing besides corporate and geopolitical interests.



    • I am sure you can tell that to the investigator who I spoke to also. We shall see what He tells you about your “gray area”(too funny!). The fact of the matter is that you are promoting a state and federal offense by even telling people to contact Julie Parker to further spread this address, and believe me the federal agent I spoke to has already seen your post, and He will be contacting you and He will be contacting Julie Parker also. THIS IS NOT A PRIVACY ISSUE! IT IS A CRIME! Good Luck, I am sure the Federal Agent I spoke to will want the contact information for this “aly” also, but this does fall into that “grey area” you spoke of. The question is, How long will you want to sit in jail to protect your source! Do your research and understand that pretending to be a journalist is fine, as long as you understand what is and what is not legal, and YOU, quite obviously DO NOT! God Speed


        • Aly

        • October 9, 2013 at 1:21 pm
        • Reply

        Addresses are public record, that’s how I found it, by searching their names. Sorry dale, I’m more offended by someone who assisted in murdering ten people then someone who posts convicted serial killers addresses online. If they’re so concerned, they should move away from the area they committed their crimes, and they should have to register like all of the sex offenders. My “source” was tax records.


          • Ein

          • October 9, 2013 at 4:15 pm

          for the record, anyone can download a flyer with the address.

          i have already downloaded the file, but will not be surprised if the
          file is dropped from that neighborhood of the internet



        • The website with the address that you posted was edited out of your comment.


          • Ein

          • October 10, 2013 at 3:47 pm

          most search engines will retrieve the aforementioned flyer
          upon entering the following text string:

          “For Our Military: Friends and Family Halloween Fun”

          be sure to include the opening and closing quotation marks



    • Then talk to your legislator or other public officials to have those laws passed. when the federal agent contacts you, I am sure this juvinile argument you are using will serve you well. I don’t like the fact that this sick bitch was even paroled, let alone is living in my neck of the woods, but to list someones address the way you did is a crime and no matter what excuse you justify it with, the legal ramifications are the same! IGNORANCE OF THE LAW IS NO EXCUSE! I can understand how you feel, I just think you are ignorant in the way you are trying to do something about it! Your source was not the crime, nor was the fact that you looked it up! Listing it online was, and is why you should be expecting a visit from the feds. God Speed


      • davidlacy

      • October 9, 2013 at 1:57 pm
      • Reply

      Dale,

      A COMMENTER, not a member of iPinion, posted the address and we deleted it. We are not concerned by your threat.



    • Do me a favor, grow a brain and a spine and do things the way the are supposed to be done, LEGALLY! The fact of the matter is you are breaking the law all because you feel the justice system did not do theirs! While I agree that the justice system failed us all in this case, (I went to High School with Craig Miller and Mary Sowers), I also know that breaking the law because of it solves nothing! Two wrongs never make a right! Organize protests outside her house, yes! Warn her neighbors by going door to door, absolutely! But you can not list their address online! IT IS ILLEGAL! Research does not seem to be your weak spot, but how you use the results is! Learn the law..


        • Ein

        • October 9, 2013 at 4:26 pm
        • Reply

        perhaps you might help us learn the law.

        can you please state the name of the law,
        and the date of its enactment, that you are
        referring to.

        a section reference from the United States
        Code or the United States Statutes at Large
        would be perfect.



    • David
      I made no threat, I stated fact. Thanks


        • Ein

        • October 9, 2013 at 4:05 pm
        • Reply

        what has happened to the dalesaunders “Visit my Website” link?

        when clicking the link, i am presented with:

        Error 404 – Page not found!

        The page you trying to reach does not exist, or has been moved. Please use the menus or the search box to find what you are looking for.


      • Lynn

      • October 9, 2013 at 2:17 pm
      • Reply

      “This just in… Daniel Martinez now using the alias Dale Saunders.” Lol


        • Cyn

        • December 11, 2015 at 3:52 am
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        What a piece of work. How anyone can stick up for Charleen speaks loudly of what kind of person you are. SHE IS a serial killer. She is rotten to the core.



    • “This just in… Lynn and here husband spoted molesting young girls in a tent in their backyard” lol



    • Ms. Toms aka Cunningham, we see you too dear. Hugs. LOL


        • Laura

        • February 10, 2014 at 1:49 am
        • Reply

        Dale stfu! For someone who says ” fought for our freedom” you sound like an idiot. Maybe you found pleasure in killing just as these murderers. That is probably why you are so bent out of shape. I would highly suggest that you check yourself into a mental clinic if not the feds should be looking at you and your doings. You are a very sick individual. This Martinez monster has no rights. She lost them when she participated in the murders of children and people. So go back under the rock that you came out of wanna be.



    • Ein,
      Nothing has happened, I am right here. Perhaps you could sign up at your local community college and take course or two, or better yet, google that shit. I am not here to give you free legal lessons, and from what I have seen of the Vigilantes and lawless cretins on this page, Why would I want to finish the site I was forced to sign up for so I could respond easily to these comments.
      Not to mention the fact that none of you would care anyway. You all to think you know the law already or as i have already stated, feel you are above it. Lets face it, your question was rhetorical in nature anyway. I can clearly see that you think you know the answer or assume any answer I give will be wrong. Look it up Scooter.


        • Ein

        • October 9, 2013 at 9:31 pm
        • Reply

        dalesaunders …

        thank you for explaining the situation, and you are correct i ought to look it up myself. i was just looking for a lead, as you know, time is precious.

        and thanks for the information on the site link, i was confused and thought that somehow that the link was being blocked.

        speaking for myself, i cannot claim to know the law, thus i am by definition ignorant of the law. but to be fair, there is a great deal of law on the books, so much so, that it strains the credulity of reasonableness and even the legal concept of “the reasonable person”.

        it seems that i am perhaps being misunderstood, i am not well versed in rhetoric … i will endeavor to look it up and i will go one further and report back my findings, or lack thereof, which may serve only to highlight my shortcomings as a legal scholar.

        thank you for your service.


          • Ein

          • October 22, 2013 at 4:07 pm

          Wired Magazine notes:

          [begin excerpt]

          James Duane, a professor at Regent Law School and former defense attorney, notes in his excellent lecture on why it is never a good idea to talk to the police:

          Estimates of the current size of the body of federal criminal law vary. It has been reported that the Congressional Research Service cannot even count the current number of federal crimes. These laws are scattered in over 50 titles of the United States Code, encompassing roughly 27,000 pages. Worse yet, the statutory code sections often incorporate, by reference, the provisions and sanctions of administrative regulations promulgated by various regulatory agencies under congressional authorization. Estimates of how many such regulations exist are even less well settled, but the ABA thinks there are ”nearly 10,000.”

          If the federal government can’t even count how many laws there are, what chance does an individual have of being certain that they are not acting in violation of one of them?

          As Supreme Court Justice Breyer elaborates:

          The complexity of modern federal criminal law, codified in several thousand sections of the United States Code and the virtually infinite variety of factual circumstances that might trigger an investigation into a possible violation of the law, make it difficult for anyone to know, in advance, just when a particular set of statements might later appear (to a prosecutor) to be relevant to some such investigation.

          [end excerpt]


      • Dale Saunders

      • October 9, 2013 at 10:04 pm
      • Reply

      Ein,
      You go Scooter! Lol. And I thought they would think I was long winded! Anyway, Understood or not, The fact of the matter is if you apply a simple rule in life such as this,, Treat others as you would have them to treat you. Then for the most part, this will be a better world for all of us. Therefore if Charlene had not been a murderous bitch, Most of these people would not believe they could violate her privacy and civil rights. Remember though, violence begets violence, so if you use this address to do harm to the murderous bitch, then sooner or later you should expect karma to enlist someone to burn your house down with you and your family inside. Lol. Just saying,,,


        • Ein

        • October 9, 2013 at 10:14 pm
        • Reply

        agreed. here is to a better world …

        and, i will certainly mind my karma.


          • Dale Saunders

          • October 9, 2013 at 10:31 pm

          Ditto my friend. Ditto!


          • Aly

          • October 10, 2013 at 5:13 pm

          Sarcasm is a beautiful thing


      • Dale Saunders

      • October 10, 2013 at 9:18 am
      • Reply

      Update, The federal agent I spoke to called me back this morning and explained that because of the address being edited from the posts here that they would not be making contact, but that they would continue to monitor the situation on this page and the others they have seen.I believe the gov. shut down has a lot to do with this also. I do encourage you all, and reiterate my earlier comments on this though. I do feel that you should all continue to monitor this woman, even organize protests outside her home. I would also recommend that you get the proper permits if needed, and that you try to get local news entities involved also. I firmly believe that this woman should not be living around the area she commited these crimes in, but my belief that there is a right way and a wrong way of doing it is just as firm. Should you organize a protest outside her home or even the non profit she has set up, please let me know, I will be more than happy to hold a sign and march up and down in front of this P.O.S.’s house with all of you!


      • davidlacy

      • October 10, 2013 at 10:24 am
      • Reply

      And how might you propose that people from different places organize in protest (as you’ve volunteered to join in on) outside her residence, if they don’t communicate the location of said residence from one to another? And if the local news affiliates show up, aren’t you broadcasting on television her residence???


        • Dale Saunders

        • October 10, 2013 at 11:00 am
        • Reply

        Nurture not nuture, Lol


        • Ein

        • October 10, 2013 at 12:53 pm
        • Reply

        maybe we could meet in the neighbourhood, at Montview Park, and
        just walk due north the house


          • Dale Saunders

          • October 10, 2013 at 1:29 pm

          davidlacy,
          Believe what you will, but trolling is the least of my cares, and if you truly believe that a federal entity is not watching this page or others, then why did you react negativly to the bait that was just laid out? Why have there been no futher postings of the address? I think we both know what I was doing, and trolling would not be the description for it, Lol. Even an ignorant clump of afterbirth such as yourself should understand that. But believe what you will, I bet the people who run this site will continue to edit that info out everytime some moron posts it or information leading them to it. lmao kudos clump


      • davidlacy

      • October 10, 2013 at 10:29 am
      • Reply

      It seems this “federal agent” should be just as concerned about your advocacy.


        • Dale Saunders

        • October 10, 2013 at 10:56 am
        • Reply

        Seriously? davidlacy, Did your mother have any children that lived?, or did she just nuture the afterbirth from a miscarrage as seems to be the case with you? The information can be relayed via private email and News agencies can broadcast the protest without divulging the address. I know you really can not be this stupid,,, and if you are, go slap your parents for not teaching you better! Grow a brain!


      • davidlacy

      • October 10, 2013 at 12:36 pm
      • Reply

      Hmmm … Because just above you chastised Debra for suggesting people could contact Julie privately to get the address? Remember that?


      • davidlacy

      • October 10, 2013 at 12:40 pm
      • Reply

      There is no federal agent investigating us Dale. A commenter posted the address and we deleted it. You then suggested it was illegal to even allow people to contact Julie to get the address, but then you JUST MENTIONED ABOVE that people could do precisely that.
      Quit trolling the page.


        • Dale Saunders

        • October 10, 2013 at 1:33 pm
        • Reply

        davidlacy,
        Believe what you will, but trolling is the least of my cares, and if you truly believe that a federal entity is not watching this page or others, then why did you react negativly to the bait that was just laid out? Why have there been no futher postings of the address? I think we both know what I was doing, and trolling would not be the description for it, Lol. Even an ignorant clump of afterbirth such as yourself should understand that. But believe what you will, I bet the people who run this site will continue to edit that info out everytime some moron posts it or information leading them to it. lmao kudos clump



    • Wooohooo! The federal government is our newest iPinion Syndicate fan!!! COOL! I love our government – just not the bozos in Congress. Maybe they’ll start distributing our stuff to the people who need to read it!
      Thank you, Dale Saunders, for boosting our stats!
      That said – knock it off with all the name calling and insults and whatnot… this is your first official warning.
      “Strike one” in other words.
      I did not insult you when you brought the address issue to our attention, now I ask that you refrain from insulting our contributors and those who leave comments. If you want to have a coherent and respectful – spirited, even – debate, that is welcome. The name-calling, insults and kindergarten back-and-forth is not.


        • Dale Saunders

        • October 10, 2013 at 2:11 pm
        • Reply

        Duly noted debra, Thank you for the warning, but this is not baseball, one will be sufficient.


        • Dale Saunders

        • October 10, 2013 at 2:13 pm
        • Reply

        And, Of course, You’re Welcome! Anything to help.



        • Dale – we have made progress here. I appreciate your calm response. You are always welcome to post commentary that is not abusive or threatening.


      • Aly

      • October 10, 2013 at 5:12 pm
      • Reply

      I wish EVERY comment board had a moderator.


        • Ein

        • October 10, 2013 at 5:24 pm
        • Reply

        personally, i am on the fence about that.

        i find value in maximising the level of information
        available to me.

        censorship is, by definition, a constraint placed
        upon information.

        statements by individuals either stand on there
        own, or they do not. this is closely tied to the
        ability of the individual to reason, rationally,
        and to effectively communicate that rationale.


      • Dale Saunders

      • October 10, 2013 at 5:15 pm
      • Reply

      Debra,
      I have no pending comments, what are you refering to?


      • Aly

      • October 10, 2013 at 5:19 pm
      • Reply

      I have a good guess “Seriously? davidlacy…did she just nuture the afterbirth from a miscarrage as seems to be the case with you? The information can be relayed via private email and News agencies can broadcast the protest without divulging the address. I know you really can not be this stupid,,, and if you are, go slap your parents for not teaching you better! Grow a brain!”

      Guess what, you’re not witty or funny and now you’ll be banned. Apparently your mother didn’t teach you tact.


      • Dale Saunders

      • October 10, 2013 at 5:36 pm
      • Reply

      The comment that you speak of is the one she gave me the warning for, I did make any further comments of that nature since then. I don’t understand what comment you are talking about!


      • Dale Saunders

      • October 10, 2013 at 5:40 pm
      • Reply

      I did Not make any comment since the one where I told her “Your welcome” So you’re saying you are banning me for my sarcasm after the previous comment and the warning for them? sounds a bit extreme if you ask me, but fine.



      • You are correct. When I requested a change in tone, you complied.


          • Dale Saunders

          • October 10, 2013 at 6:49 pm

          I was a little lost there, But it is all good. I just did not understand what you were saying is all, Thank you for clearing it up Debra! and EIN, Yes you are, my friend, Yes you are! Lol



        • The comments have been flying a little too fast and furious here to keep up with. Dale: Clearly you have some passion around this issue and this incident, but your point was lost in all the name-calling and bitterness. I see that you are capable of interacting in a different way, so I invite you to explain, calmly, what that point was.

          If we violated someone’s rights, it is not our intention. Nor is it our intention to wish harm on anyone or do harm to anyone, no matter how vile they may be.

          Many erroneous assumptions were made. I suggest everyone back off a bit, and come back with cooler heads.

          By the way, I see you use the nickname “Scooter”. I assume you are a Ron White fan. I am also a Ron White fan. In other words – everyone writing and posting here is not your enemy. Therefore, there is no need to charge in with guns blazing. The conversation is more interesting when everyone can understand what is being said.


          • Dale Saunders

          • October 10, 2013 at 6:58 pm

          Debra,
          Suffice it in saying that because of what this woman did, there is going to be a certain amount of the “lunatic fringe” involved in it. You can’t control everyone, No matter how diligent you are! I can not say that I blame people for feeling the they do, but I still feel there is a proper way to handle it. I really feel that a petition drive against her would be the best bet, but I don’t think the “lunatic fringe” would agree. Sadly, Such is the way of the world we exsist in today.



        • Ah. Now I can see your point. Yes, she is a horrible person. Yes, there are people out there who would wish horrible things upon her, and worse yet, people who would carry out those wishes. I agree with you, this is inappropriate and barbaric, and those harming her would be no better than the vile animal she is.

          I would NEVER support, nor advocate, the harm of another person in such a “lunatic fringe” way.

          I agree… no one should be advocating any sort of lynching or harm. I am certain that no one on the iPinion team was doing so. If it appeared that way, it was a misunderstanding.


          • Ein

          • October 10, 2013 at 7:15 pm

          wait, now i am getting confused.

          is she a “vile animal”

          or

          is she “another person”

          ?


          • Dale Saunders

          • October 10, 2013 at 7:46 pm

          Ein,
          She is actually both, but that being said, Debra is right, Cooler heads always prevail.
          Debra,
          Here I thought I was being clever,,, But you being another Ron White fan, You picked up on it faster than most! Lol The man is a very funny comedian! Anyway, I guess I must apologize for some of my earlier “Rude and childish” comments at this point, But I am not part of that lunatic fringe we spoke of, and it would appear that neither are you, Please excuse my assumption in that area. We had some La Sierra Alumni threaten acts of violence and even homicide against this vile woman on one of the times it was brought up on our High Schools page. I still have copies! This disturbed me greatly but still does not give me the right to assume that you or IPINION where a party to that or agreed with it! I apologize for said assumption.



        • Ein as Dale said… both. She is a human being, in the biological sense… but behaves as a vile animal.
          Dale – I had no idea about any of the threats. She deserves to be despised. But she does not deserve to have those feelings acted upon.
          And…. Maybe Congress could learn a thing or two from this thread… you get much farther through calm, thoughtful communication.
          And… Ron White is a genius. I have seen him twice – once with front row seats.


      • davidlacy

      • October 10, 2013 at 5:48 pm
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      We have received a comment threatening our staff members’ children. Please note, ip addresses associated with specific threats are reported immediately to law enforcement.


        • Dale Saunders

        • October 10, 2013 at 6:08 pm
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        I’ll tell ya what there scooter, you report away. I made no threat or any other comment other than the ones on this board, Stuff your threat where the sun don’t shine.



        • The threat did not come from you. Sadly, this entire thread has become a little too heated. Additionally, there is some confusion about a flier, of which I know nothing about.


          • Ein

          • October 10, 2013 at 7:28 pm

          if there is yet confusion about the flyer,
          then i believe that i have followed this
          comment area well enough to clear it
          up.

          i could point to comment time stamps,
          URLs and various other bits of info
          and lay out all the details in the most
          straightforward of manners.

          but wait, there is more !!!
          for a limited time, the first
          persons to request the
          details will get … blah …
          blah … blah

          SQUIRREL !!!


          • Dale Saunders

          • October 10, 2013 at 8:04 pm

          LOL!


        • Ein

        • October 10, 2013 at 6:14 pm
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        can you indicate what sort of law enforcement agency these reports go to ?

        local law enforcement ?

        … a Federal Agent ?

        … all appropriate state and federal agencies ?

        or, the Ultimate Enforcer, karma ?


          • Dale Saunders

          • October 10, 2013 at 6:33 pm

          LMAO, I will give you this much EIN, you make me laugh!


          • Ein

          • October 10, 2013 at 6:45 pm

          i am your huckleberry


      • Diss Content

      • October 12, 2013 at 11:46 am
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      What a stunning article. To change both names indicates she’s aware of how toxic they remain in the Sacramento area.

      I recall she received a plea deal based upon her “complete and truthful” testimony associated with their crimes. When asked about the location of Brenda Judd’s (age 14) and Sandra Colley’s (13) bodies, Charlene directed police to Lovelock, Nevada with a complex recitation of what occurred during their murders. After days of excavation the search was abandoned, and Charlene was off to serve her 16 plus years.

      Then I remember being shocked reading an article about her release in’97 and how quickly it seemed to go by. And how cheap a life was at just over a year and a half for each murder victim.

      In 1999 there was a small report about a landowner in Lassen County, California, blundering upon a couple graves near a home he was building. DNA was to confirm the remains as those of Judd and Colley. Since these remains were in a different State, and over 100 miles from Lovelock, I was sure the next article I would read about Charlene, would be about her violation of the plea deal, and return to prison for life.

      I was wrong.


      • Heather Alani

      • March 12, 2014 at 6:33 pm
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      Sex offenders names and addresses are public to ensure the SAFETY of the public. I am sorry sir, but, don’t you want to know if your neighbor may rape and/or murder your child? Public concern. Heartbreaking article.



    • The reason she’s not on the S.O.R. Is because she was not convicted of any sex crime. She pled guilty to murder and received transactional immunity-she cannot be tried in ANY of those states or crimes as it relates to the ‘sex slave murders’. Her plea agreement was written Specifically to insure ANY future prosecution. After all does anybody really believe that there are no other bodies out there..



    • I cannot access any of the recent public photos of ‘Mary Martinez’ (I’m using my blackberry -no computer lol) is it possible anyone could post one here or Email me one? Im very curious to see what she looks like now. Thanks- kmara07@gmail.com



    • Me too pls


      • greenfrootloops

      • January 17, 2015 at 8:42 pm
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    • greenfrootloops: Rumor has it that (per someone in the military who knew him), her son actually took his life. Can’t even begin to imagine how anyone could handle knowing or discovering your parents’ “legacy.” Tragic on many levels.



    • That is exactly what i was thinking when i saw this post. I read that he died of non-combat related injuries and it hinted of suicide. I read that he was raised by charlene’s parents. What a horrible “legacy” to be burdened with for this young man. I hope charlene feels some guilt. She has got a lot of nerve playing the role of grieving mother when there is no way that HER ACTIONS wouldnt have contributed to the desperation he must have felt leading up to a suicide. Soaking up public sympathies for a son she couldnt have even known that well being in prison while he grew up….again reeks of her manipulative ways. Not that i would in any way have ever wished this on her son, whose pain growing up as the child of these two monsters must have been so much to bear….I do wonder if charlene can now possibly have ANY REAL SYMPATHY for the families of her victims and possibly feel remorse. They say a sociopath can never understand the pain of others they only understand what pain happens to them. Losing a child, do you think she gets it now?. The unselfish thing she could have done was to have put him up for adoption which at that time most were closed. Even if he had later learned of his parents background he would have been hopefully well-enough-adjusted to realize that their behavior doesnt have to define him in any way. But being raised by charlenes parents, in the same community, even being named after his grandfather…..this boy had to have known what was going on being raised in the midst of it and we can only imagine his being stigmatized. The ONLY thing that might have given him a fighting chance was for charlene to be unselfish enough to give him up and let him have an untainted childhood. But of course she took the selfish easy way out….keep him and put him through hell. His grandparents also could have taken a stand to give him some semblance of a normal childhood but they always did give charlene whatever she wanted. If he did actually kill himself then we can add one more victim to her and Gerald’s dead victim count. The damage she has inflicted on others just enrages me while she is roaming about freely. Karla Homolka is reviled and her case highly publucized while charlenes victim count is 5 times higher with LITTLE MEDIA ATTENTION!


        • Joyce Yagoda

        • July 2, 2018 at 7:54 am
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        She feels no guilt! Charlene is a sociopath, if not when Gerald had that woman in that bedroom for hours, raping her, she would have called the police! People will get what they deserve and she deserved to loose her own child. Unfortunately, all too often, children answer for the sins of the parents!


      • Ruby

      • March 27, 2016 at 10:53 pm
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      She is the monster that allowed numerous young girls to be raped and murdered. I hope she feels the grief of losing her own child, the same as she bestowed upon so many other parents.



    • Pretty sure that idiot Dale Saunders is related or has connections with the monster Charlene. Hell bent on protecting her under the guise of upholding her fundamental rights with his fake Federal agent threats. Hope his IP was noted what a $cumbag!


      • Zaridra

      • December 8, 2016 at 12:41 am
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      Dale Saunders is probably just some nutcase that forgot to take his ding biscuits. I probably should’t have posted that about him because now he will have his lawyer F.B. Lewis sue me lol.


      • Marcus

      • April 21, 2017 at 10:38 am
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      Gallego/Martinez is pure evil: she was extremely fortunate to get the relatively short sentence she did (some 16 years), rather than capital punishment for the 10 people she and her partner in crime murdered – a sentence highly controversial even now.

      That she has not, apparently, sought to keep the lowest of profiles is a mark of her audacity, and foolishness, since the loved ones of those she participated in murdering may have revenge in mind. And given what she did to those poor souls, could we blame them?

      She may not have answered for her grievous sins properly in this life, but she will before God. It is tragic that her brave son lost his life in Afghanistan: perhaps she has some insight into how the parents of those she murdered feel at their loss at the hands of this unspeakable woman.


      • Robin

      • January 27, 2018 at 9:37 pm
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      It is very telling that the name she chose to take on is Mary, the name of Gallegos daughter whom he reportedly abused from 6-14 years old!! Of all the names to choose, she chooses one so closely associated with the monster for whom she lured victims to death at his hands!!

      If she was really horrified by his deeds and did what she did only out of fear and trembling, why is she purposely choosing a name that so closely again allies her with her “abuser?”

      And if she really felt bad about the damage done to the victims and their families, why plunk herself smack dab in the middle of them on the killing field of Sacramento?

      Sure sounds like a double “in your face” to the victims and the community.


      • George Franks

      • June 22, 2018 at 10:05 pm
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      You wrote ” the article would not be punished ” instead of published. 🙂


      • Lucky One

      • August 8, 2018 at 9:34 pm
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      What ever she wants to call herself is fine. I know the truth she was no victim, she enjoyed ever moment of her and his sadistic crimes. I know because the first time I saw Charlene she was sitting in the middle front seat of a truck. Gerald was driving and his half brother David Hunt was passenger. It was the fall of 1977 and myself and my 13 year old friend were walking ton A&W. We noticed them because they drove by 4 or 5 times before they parked facing us on the wrong side of the road. Those couple of minutes lasted forever, but I realized what was happening and I look Charlene directly in her eye, I could not believe a woman would be part of a kidnapping of 2 little girls. Then I saw David Hunt was just about to reach me I saw my friend was already running around the corner and I bolted. When they realized that the men scared us away they changed there MO. After that Charlene was the bait offering jobs or Marijuana to the victims. She is a sadistic murdering psychopath, who got away with murder. Notice they tried to do that to us a year before the police have them on record as committing these crimes. There are more bodies I guarantee it, there’s still 15 women from that time period missing in Contrast Costa County alone. May you burn in hell Charlene/Mary!!



      • Good for you and your friend for escaping! I can’t imagine the multi-layered emotions you must experience, having a link to that dark history.


        • AC

        • July 29, 2019 at 11:41 pm
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        @Lucky One-That is crazy and I am very glad you escaped. Yes it is true that Mary, er Charlene knew fully well what was going on, helped lure the victims with promises of drugs, or money, and murdered them. I am not surprised that David Hunt was also involved. I read a book about Gerald and Charlene and I would not be surprised if there are more victims. Mary/Charlene makes desserts and if I lived in her town or city I would stay far away from her, not buy any of her biscuits, and tell everyone I knew to stay away.


      • I live on Cresridge Rd

      • September 18, 2018 at 11:54 pm
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      It’s disgusting that this monster roams free. Unfortunately I have seen her and her husband on a couple of different occasions at the Fair Oaks cemetery, I have a loved one who is buried only feet away from Charlene’s son. It’s nauseating..and that new husband is what? Completely brainwashed by her or is he a sicko too?? Unbelievable that she isn’t behind bars or AT LEAST registered as a sex offender.


      • Mara Kaufman

      • October 12, 2019 at 4:58 pm
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      Where is the follow up to this article? A lot has happened since this was written. Charlene has committed a whole lotta fraud and the writer mentioned that something was up so what’s going on? Don’t leave us hanging!


      • Mara Kaufman

      • February 10, 2020 at 11:10 am
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      Julie Parker, you can’t leave a comment here about the big secret you were alluding to? C’mon I’ve been checking your damn comments for a couple of years now doesn’t that count for something? Or how bout my email, marakaufman@icloud.com



      • I no longer work for the newspaper, having relocated. I suggest you contact the Carmichael Times directly for updates: publisher@mpg8.com


          • Cathy Robie

          • April 20, 2020 at 12:45 am

          You don’t know me, but I remember your writing for the Carmichael newspaper. I like your writing style. Are you writing anywhere else? I would like to get into writing myself, maybe you can suggest to me how I can get a writing career going. thank you, Cathy Robie/cakes28074@mypacks.net



        • I got my foot in the door simply by submitting an article on a subject I was passionate. I suggest you do the same, and ask the editor or publisher if you can meet to discuss the possibility of writing for the paper. Local, smaller community papers are always looking for new content and new writer perspectives. Good luck!


      • Cathy

      • June 17, 2020 at 9:02 pm
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      Wow, I didn’t check back to see that you responded. I thought your intuition of feeling something was up when interviewing this Charlene/Mary woman was profound. Are you writing for another newspaper? Thank you, Cathy.



      • I now live along the Mendocino Coast. I wrote for the local paper for a while, but am now focusing my efforts in the local historical society. Preserving the past to learn from it. 🙂


      • Cathy

      • June 17, 2020 at 9:04 pm
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